Obviously this has to be judicious, as there comes a point where the taper tends more towards an adjacent standard line weight. 5 .092 .242 (Mark Wendt), Dickerson (like all of us who draw their own tubing) used 1/64 wall tubing to construct his ferrules. If you read this Bob, I would be interested to know how you choose your tip dimension and rise? Standard Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1099 Custom Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1199 - $1399 You don't find a need for a 7'6" 5wt on your streams. Forgot to mention before, Rich Jezioro is taking a set of 11-12/64 ferrules to Grayling for the silent auction for me, so if anybody's interested you can see them there if you're attending. This rod belonged to rodbuilder Tim Bedford. How would this feel? Because of subjective issues like feel and personal prejudices, not to mention fashion, we "adjust" this a bit in fishing rods. I think I originally posted this taper as Russ personally sent it to me. Pickard is the Dickerson rod maker these days. Maybe it is the version of the taper they are making, there are several out there. To my way of looking at this taper, its definitely an 8 wt. What I do is look at the actual flat to flat measurements of the blank at the ferrule ends, match it against the chart for the best fit. You can easily introduce straight line tapers as well. Another maker who knows Dickerson tapers very well is Rick Cunningham. (Gary Nicholson). ever wonder why all those 10 1/2/64 Heddons broke at the female ferrule? Winston Rods. Jim Schaaf. (Robin Haywood), I consider a 7 1/2-ft. 5wt. This is merely about applying engineering principles to designing a rod for a particular application. It is obviously also extremely useful to compare one rod with others at the same time. Gift of Heidi Bedford, Yearc. Click here to directly compare the action of the 5 weight tapers marked with an asterisk ( * ) below. Orvis passed the 60,000 bamboo rods made number quite some time back and of course is still making them. For example a 13 was really a 13.5? Dies are not so easy to make that he would have probably have made an entire offset set. (Tom Smithwick), See what Steve says, lots of people (Americans ? by SpringCreek 06/12/16 10:45, Post The rod action will not resemble a straight line taper any longer. Browse our collection of vintage fly boxes and wallets. Lyle Dickerson Spurred into rodmaking by losing his job in the great depression, Lyle Dickerson would go on to become one of the masters of the craft. Manchester, VT 05254 Everything is subjective, but for me Morten, the 1949 version of the 8013 listed in the Lovely Reed is the best version of this taper. The long column to the right of that is what we think the raw cane would have measured, subtracting for varnish, and interpolating between our measurements so as to put everything back on 5-inch stations. So now where do you add or subtract material and what effect will it have on the rod. 85 0.296 138357 (Robin Haywood). 60 0.231 142296 Mystic Outdoors is the premier manufacturer of high-performance fly fishing equipment for new anglers and seasoned veterans alike. Contact us to learn more about how we can help! The last 7613 is a version by Todd Talsma, it is the strongest one a 6/7 wt similar to the 1952 model. Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods. the 3pc tapers were appropriated from other makers so it does not always hold true in that case. Pt Butt Tip Is there a classic taper that roll casts better any others? by avyoung 06/17/16 04:49, Post Don't you find short rods a problem on those splendid Yorkshire chalk streams? by ShenRods 05/08/09 01:54, Post Cynically, but I may not have entirely given up, yet. $239.00 + $24.95 shipping (2) Vintage HEDDON PAL Casting Rods - #6277 Wormer 5'6"+ #6273 Musky Special 5' . (Will McMurrey), A picture says a thousand words. I have one of his 7625's, and it's a great rod, being a 7613 replica. Chris' rod is also an 861711D. 0.248 by avyoung 06/12/16 18:13, Post The point here being, if we can define areas along the straight line or linier taper. Tuesday - Sunday, 10am to 4pm, Winter 15 0.1115 Can't remember which is which without looking in the book, but one is lighter than the other. 0.369 In reading my post the tone seems a little harsh. I don't find the 7'6" length to be too short. On Corrib I used an 8'8''#4 nearly all the time, in fact I designed it for the job. Lyle Dickerson oft written about little powerhouse of a rod. I think you are being a tad myopic, if you can't see that .016, .014, and .015 AVERAGE OUT to equal .014". (Mark Dyba), Okay, to continue the discussion, what are they, and why? No question my friend John Pickard is the way to go for a Dickerson reproduction. (Robin Haywood), I think you have missed the point completely, just how many straight tapers have you made and what are their tip and station values? 0.278 (Matthew French), Different rods, the 8014 is a true 6wt, the 8014G (G stands for guide) is a heavier rod, a point and shoot, no false cast, lay out a ton of line type rod. Casting 20 feet of 5wt line the stress curve is flat. 8 wt 0.0830 by JohnI 05/09/09 04:06, Post (Robin Haywood), Why don't you design some roll casting ability into every rod? Stress curves are the only tool I have seen that give you a visual image of exactly what you have changed and the consequences of that action. that is less the difference of the step. 4070 Main Street, Dickerson Rods For Sale 0.232 The other point is that in the case of, for want of a better word, 'non-extreme' rods, I believe that what happens in the top 20" is the primary determinant of the line weight. The butt has a long flex area from 45"- 75" and a butt swell. Pezon/Michel. 0.266 (Bob Norwood), The point, whether you like it or not, is that you cannot design a rod that much exceeds mediocrity by using straight tapers. The resulting rod won't know the difference and neither will you when you cast it. I love the 7612 Taper. Short cased and portable. I assume that he extrapolated those measurements. However many people may like them, does this mean they cannot be improved on? Tel: 802-362-3300, Summer Your projected experiment may be described as simplistic and wasteful of time by some, but I think that you will learn a very great deal about what you personally like about taper rates. the all-around trout rod out here in the Western US. (Mark Wendt), I am wanting to build a Dickerson 7012 but cant find a taper that accounts for the step downs. A Lyle Dickerson model 8014 bamboo fly rod, 8', 2-piece, 3-tip, and built for a #6 line. if you don't have ~ 1/64 drop over the ferrule it isn't a true taper. The swell starts at the 80" mark which will be under the cork assuming I have a grip and an insert roughly 10" in length. Kind of sounds like a pro Pickard crowd here. (Peter Jones) I own one of his 7612s and it's a wonderful rod. Post I just wanted to make the point that there's a difference between a rod with a straight taper and one with a straight, flat stress curve. The rod in question has a test curve of 4 ozs, by the way. Fast Dickerson 7613 - 7'6" 2pc But all you have done is show the straight line taper for between two dimensions. 0.275 A straight line taper could be arbitrary, but in this case it is very specific to line weight. Again, there is slight flattening around the ferrule, and I suspect the measurement at 35" is due to machine operator error/technique rather than designed in. 0.120 faster tapers. 35 0.162 166451 Some people call them "step-down" but it is worth noting that the top and the bottom openings of his ferrules are usually the same diameter; the "step" across the ferrule occurred in the bamboo, not the metal. His total production was fewer than 1,000 rods. You may think you are being rude about "Classic" production methods, but they're probably better than mine. In other words as the load increased, more of the rod would flex in a liner fashion. But nobody has a right to ask me to share it. Dickerson 8015 Guide Special By Jim Schaaf, 2458 - 11. Lyle Dickerson's famed taper. 765: 7'6" 2/2 5 wt. 0 .326 .180 But all right is not a euphemism for excellent. he then concludes with a diabolical smile. Just have finish paying for the last kids college. Rods also tend to have varying sweet spots in terms of when the amount of line out feel just right. 0.168 by cwood 05/08/09 02:51, Post Actually I feel an increase of .030 would be sufficient. The 7613 is a wonderfully versatile taper, the rod is light in the hand, and is at home casting sizes #6 Muddlers to #16 Dry flies. I search on Google and didn't come up with anything. I recently sold a rod to a customer blind on the phone. Are there specific numbers at the ferrule for, say, an 8013 where a 14/64's ferrule is used? One authority I know claims Jim Payne actually built more fly rods than Orvis. So this spring I made the Dickerson 8014 Guide taper and prefer it for Lake Bass and larger bluegill. The only limit you have in this process, you can't change the tip diameter because you would be changing the line weight of the rod. 0.308 There are two Perfectionists on Hexrod. (Inches) (Inches) Stress Inquiring solvent-afflicted minds want to know. 55 0.217 145405 Also, your shorthand doesn't describe where these changes take place, which is as equally as important as the changes themselves. This is one of those bio-feedback things you must be self taught IMHO. 5 wt 0.0720 You bring up a question I have been trying to work through for some time. Information About Makers and Manufacturers, Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. maybe someone else has one! (Greg Reeves), Something ain't quite right there. 0.220 As you got more line out the rod would flex deeper into the shaft. So I thought I would answer that question and build one. The 8013 is an 8' 0", 2/2, 5wt., 4.35 oz. a 3 1/2 wt - were that possible. Both tapers conform to the shape broadly called parabolic and thus will have the shortcomings that all rods of this misconceived taper share. by softstick 05/09/09 04:36, Post by alpom 05/08/09 03:35, Post Garrison's tapers may have been all right in his day, for the equipment and applications he was designing for, i.e. I fish mostly Michigan streams where you are wading the stream casting to the edges, and casting to rising fish wherever you are lucky enough to find them. 10 0.101 154505 The hatch did not materialize and the fish did not rise, which gave me time to think of such things. My 2 cents. I am still trying to fully define the effect, positive and negative each of these regions have on rod action. 50 0.203 148510 All that stops me is time, I get about six weeks a year unencumbered by business or meetings and I'm booked up to 2010! (Chris Obuchowski). 0.334 It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. While I have never cast an original (I think only a few were ever made by Mr. Dickerson) I have made a 4-5. All tapers are based solely or partially on the combinations of these basic deviations from the SLT. 0.288 Acclaimed as one of the finest rod tapers ever conceived. From 80 to 85, there is an increase of ~.070. The Dickersons that I've seen were similar. Part of the midwest cadre of noted builders, he built rods from the 1930's onward and was especially known for his fast two-piece rods. Step Down debate again. Even then I wince about their roll casting deficiencies. Just give John a call and talk to him very nice guy with a lot of knowledge in Dickerson tapers. And well worth the little time it takes to execute. We all have devices to try to self describe tapers. In fact, I used this taper, hollow built, when taking the FFF casting certification test. Jim P. you have some great choices there. This first set was posted on The Classic Fly Rod Forum by Jeff Fultz. It is, literally, the shape of the rod itself and determines how . The last tip measurement (that goes into the male ferrule) is .204. The Dickerson 7612 taper a smooth medium action 4 wt that is 7 1/2 long in a 2pc. The trouble is, really, that I know there are people out there who really do understand taper design, it's getting them to talk to us about it thats the problem. Dave Norling, Rush River Rods, makes a stepdown 13/12 ferrule, the only size stepdown that he offers , that works very well for this taper. .but like most opinions you will find that many on this list (and in the world at large) are not going to agree with you. Only lost 1/2 inch in rod length. Except that they are US rated and thus #5's! My original Dickerson is an 861711D dated 1936. Inevitably, if part of the strain is caused by rings ferrules and varnish, as it must be, then its resultant effect will detract from the weight of line that rod will cast. Garrison's are straight except for the last 15 inches which he "fudged" to accommodate one of the standard tip top sizes. 0.292 No Question about it, John Pickard. by avyoung 06/12/16 21:15, Post An 861711 would be an 8 1/2' three piece, with the butt-to-mid ferrule being a size 17, and the mid-to-tip ferrule being a size 11. The 7012 HB is super light, and can cast with the best of them. How would you characterize their casting characteristics? 25 .160 .308 Here are the tapers of the Dickerson 8014GS from the rod Jeff Fultz mic'ed and from Banjo's rod, since I had several requests both on and off list, I'll post here so anyone who wants them can save them. by Jim 05/08/09 01:45, Post I don't disagree with any one here in fact I think you are all correct. .266@20 In fact, I had great trouble casting the bloody thing. (Harry Boyd), In Dickerson-speak, does a 7613 have a 14 on the butt to 13 on the tip or a 13 on the butt to 12 on the tip stepdown? Since the time he was with the Deschutes Rod Co. in Seattle he has built rods with Dickerson tapers. All of the Dickerson tapers I have made using Super Zs have been great. by Morten 06/12/16 08:37, Post All of these factors when considered together give a better picture of the rod than any one does in isolation. 2023 American Museum Of Fly Fishing. (Jimmy Chang), I have made rods using both tapers. All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide. I have made quite a few Dickerson tapers. In the original Ritz conception the rod, or the taper, was the tip. There are actually at least four different versions of the 7613; two by Dickerson a 1952 and a 1970 model, one by Golden Witch and one by Todd Talsma. Anyway, far too few people concern themselves over what should be the staple obsession of every rodmaker-design. Still own the other and it has a DT6 on it. 0.232 Harry Boyd ----------- Harry Boyd http://www.canerods.com maker@canerods.com Aransas.clarks Guide Posts: 301 The rest of the shown increase is, in my opinion, just for looks. 0.248 6-strip Tonkin bamboo They were severely inhibited by several difficulties. (Robin Haywood). A Powell B taper by definition is a straight taper. Modified Lyle Dickerson 6611 Dry-Fly Action: 6' 6" 3 or 4: 11/64: 2/2: P702: Ponds, creeks . I'm off to the antipodes next year, and I'm hoping that the 7'6'' #5 that should be a #4 will go with me. Obviously, custom tapers take a little longer to develop and build. 3 months after I had the guy back on the phone asking me to make another one as its the best rod he has ever had. If you would like to give Michigan a try, let me know. (Will Price), Dickerson standardized his reel seats with a 3/8's inside diameter bore, hence the .375 under the grip and reel seat. As Stephen points out if you can cast the rods then graph them out you really start to understand how it all comes together. I have been gobs smacked many times when the customer turns around and says I like this one. Bob through extensive research determined the tip dimensions for specific line weights and then calculated SLT for each. (Robin Haywood), This would be very easy, but would impact on other desirable qualities. Here's a classic Winston from the Hexrod taper archive. All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide if desired. (Paul Blakley), I have a taper for the Dickerson 7613 and am a little confused. All were very powerful eight weight rods with most of the action in the upper half. Bamboo fly rod Dickerson 7012 taper 7ft 4wt 2/2. Talk to any of the 'boo boys who used to work at Winston, and they'll tell you Winston tapers are basically straight (I got that straight from Jeff Walker). I think you have fallen into the same trap that so many people do and forgot to realize that Stress Curves are only good for the conditions under which they are derived; change the conditions and you have changed the Curve. So far all those posted were missing the 1st station on the butt section. (Mark Wendt), I checked the several places that I usually look for tapers and they all had the swell starting at 80". (Gary Nicholson), So out of great curiosity then - how would you describe to me (someone who doesn't have a clue) how the action would feel or perform with regard to a "Straight Taper Rod" comparatively speaking. At the Grayling gathering, Bill Harms gave a presentation of Marinaro's approach to rod design. 7 wt 0.0790 But more relevant and to the point, I bought a single tip Dickerson 7613 from John and he recently provided me with a second tip from pre-embargo cane and original Dickerson hardware, and the action is a dead ringer for the original Dickerson 7613. (Robin Haywood), I find this a very interesting. is obviously your opinion, which you are entitled to. I have fit the ferrules but not glued them up yet. The part of the ferrule that fits on the bamboo on the female side (butt side) had an inside diameter (ID) of .221", or 14/64. Besides, he's a fun guy to chat with about almost anything to do with fly fishing and the outdoors. They look very representative to what I have seen. Parabolic is a marketing term and thus entirely meaningless in discussions on rod design. 0.196 by mosquito 05/08/09 09:33, Post The butt was merely an extension pole to keep the tip further from the ground. Measure over original varnish. Fly Fishing Supplies & Gear. .203 is about all you can get into a 13/64 ferrule. As a general rule, a 12/64 gives you a four weight, a 13/64 a five, 14 or 15 a six. Thanks. DICKERSON 801610 - 8' 3/2 - 5wt- honey colored - medium powerful action trout fishing rod this rod is my favorite 8 foot Dickerson - originals are very rare - incredible power in a true 5w$ 2150us (all 3pc 2tip rods)DICKERSON 7613 - 7'6"- one of my all time favorite 5wts, copied in Dickerson's style can be custom made with tips of four different actions below: DICKERSON 7613 LS - the lightest of this series - for closer casting to 40 feetDICKERSON 7613 L - very nice all-round trout taper, full, medium fast actionDICKERSON 7613 M - quick, full dry fly rod - nice to have when the hatch startsDICKERSON 7613 H the 6wt, "big gun" of this series, good for big flies, streamers, $ 1750us w/one tip $ 1950us w/two tips $ 2150us w/three (or all 3pc 2tip rods) $ 2350us w/full set of four tips in all actions. I'm just curious if you have a procedure to do this compensation on the taper itself or if you do this by stress calculation methods? 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